In our talk with Harm Rensink and Niek Pulles (HEYNIEK) the scope of their collaborations was depicted. In their joint projects two attitudes and energies come together. Next to being an unorthodox visual researcher Niek is also the dynamic antenna, catching the signs of times. The more analytic Harm creates the scenographic context of these diverse elements and triggers. A perfect example of how two opposite powers together transform diversities into a universe that lifts ups participants as well as the public.